{"id":149754,"date":"2026-09-04T05:13:13","date_gmt":"2026-09-04T05:13:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/?page_id=149754"},"modified":"2026-09-04T05:31:24","modified_gmt":"2026-09-04T05:31:24","slug":"saivo-sveti-planinski-jezerski-svijet-sama","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/saivo-sveti-planinski-jezerski-svijet-sama\/","title":{"rendered":"Saivo \u2013 sveti planinski i jezerski svijet Sama"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"149754\" class=\"elementor elementor-149754 elementor-2673 elementor-bc-flex-widget\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-hero e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-hero\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-hl e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-hl\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-htxt e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-htxt\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-h1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-h1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Saivo \u2013 sveti planinski i jezerski svijet Sama i dom \u0161amanskih pomaga\u010da<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-lead elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-lead\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo, pisano i kao S\u00e1jvva ili Saaivo, u predkr\u0161\u0107anskoj <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/sami-i-finougorska-tradicija-noaidi-bubanj\/\">samskoj<\/a> religiji predstavlja posebni svijet duhova koji se smje\u0161ta u odre\u0111ene planine i pod odre\u0111ena jezera. Ovdje obitavaju saivo-duhovi, koji djeluju kao osobni pomo\u0107ni duhovi \u0161amana. S religiologijskog gledi\u0161ta Saivo pripada najosebujnijim konfiguracijama samske <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Znanstveno prou\u010davanje Boga i vjere jedne religije.\" tabindex=\"0\">teologije<\/span>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-pillc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-pillc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-pills elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-pills\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"iwg-pill-row\"><span class=\"iwg-klasse-badge\" tabindex=\"0\" data-tooltip=\"Duh iz tradicije Sami.\">Duh<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/sami-i-finougorska-tradicija-noaidi-bubanj\/\" class=\"iwg-kultur-badge\" tabindex=\"0\" data-tooltip=\"Mitologija tradicije Sami.\">Sami<\/a><span class=\"iwg-tradition-badge\" tabindex=\"0\" data-tooltip=\"Sveti svijet i dom duhova.\">Sveti svijet i dom duhova<\/span><\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-tocc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-tocc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-toc elementor-toc--minimized-on-tablet elementor-widget elementor-widget-table-of-contents\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-toc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;headings_by_tags&quot;:[&quot;h2&quot;,&quot;h3&quot;],&quot;minimize_box&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;,&quot;marker_view&quot;:&quot;bullets&quot;,&quot;no_headings_message&quot;:&quot;Na ovoj stranici nisu prona\\u0111eni naslovi.&quot;,&quot;exclude_headings_by_selector&quot;:[],&quot;icon&quot;:{&quot;value&quot;:&quot;fas 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975Z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-hr e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-hr\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-heroimg iwg-hero-image elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-heroimg\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/geister_sami_saivo-683x1024.webp\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-151506\" alt=\"Saivo - duhovi iz sami tradicije, povijesno-ilustrativno\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/geister_sami_saivo-683x1024.webp 683w, https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/geister_sami_saivo-200x300.webp 200w, https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/geister_sami_saivo-768x1152.webp 768w, https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/geister_sami_saivo.webp 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-sec-iwgcomp2-saivo elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"sec-iwgcomp2-saivo\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-col-iwgcomp2-saivo\" data-id=\"col-iwgcomp2-saivo\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgcomp2-saivo elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgcomp2-saivo\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo je u samskoj vjeri dom <strong>\u0161amanskih pomaga\u010da<\/strong>, u svetim planinama i jezerima.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s0 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s0h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s0h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Uvod i kratki profil<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s0c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s0c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s0t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s0t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo je istovremeno topografska i religijska dvostruka odrednica: sveto mjesto u krajoliku (svete planine, sveta jezera) i svijet duhova koji obitavaju u tim mjestima. Ta dvostruka odrednica je religijsko-fenomenolo\u0161ki samosvojna i razlikuje Saivo od isklju\u010divo topografskih ili isklju\u010divo teolo\u0161kih koncepata.<\/p><p>Saivo-duhovi su najva\u017eniji osobni pomo\u0107ni duhovi samskih \u0161amana (noaidi). Svaki <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Religijski specijalist kojemu se pripisuje posredovanje izme\u0111u ljudi i svijeta duhova.\" tabindex=\"0\">\u0161aman<\/span> imao je jednog ili vi\u0161e saivo-pomaga\u010da koji su mu bili uz bok u transu. Ti pomo\u0107ni duhovi mogli su poprimiti razli\u010dite oblike: \u017eivotinjski, ljudski, <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Bi\u0107e koje u sebi objedinjuje zna\u010dajke razli\u010ditih \u017eivih bi\u0107a.\" tabindex=\"0\">hibridni<\/span>.<\/p><p>S religiologijskog gledi\u0161ta Saivo je samostalna konfiguracija koja je strukturno sli\u010dna predstavi o Tornarssuku kod <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/inuiti-arktik-sedna-tornit-zastita\/\">Inuita<\/a>, ali se razlikuje po topografskoj utemeljenosti. Ta utemeljenost je religijsko-fenomenolo\u0161ki zaseban fenomen i \u010dini Saivo posebno zanimljivim predmetom istra\u017eivanja.<\/p><p>Sveti planinski i jezerski svijet Saivo obra\u0111en je u novijim istra\u017eivanjima s pro\u0161irenim pristupima koji spajaju etnografsku to\u010dnost, jezi\u010dnu kritiku izvora i komparativnu perspektivu. Samski znanstvenici i znanstvenice danas su sami uklju\u010deni u taj rad i ispravljaju starije zapadne pripise, od kojih su neki nosili kolonijalna obilje\u017eja.<\/p><p>Svojom dvostrukom naravi svetog mjesta i svijeta duhova, Saivo se uklapa u obrazac cirkumpolarne religijske topografije koja se ponavlja na \u0161irokim prostorima. \u010cinjenica da ta struktura ostaje stabilna kroz tisu\u0107e kilometara smatra se u komparativnoj <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Znanost koja komparativno i bez vjerske pripadnosti istra\u017euje religije.\" tabindex=\"0\">religiologiji<\/span> jednim od njezinih najzapa\u017eenijih nalaza i ostaje predmet stalne raspre.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s1 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s1h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s1h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Ime i etimologija<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s1c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s1c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s1t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s1t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Podrijetlo imena Saivo jezi\u010dno nije kona\u010dno razja\u0161njeno. Jedna hipoteza povezuje ga sa staronordijskim <em>s\u00e6<\/em> u zna\u010denju more ili jezero, \u0161to odgovara simbolici vode. Druga hipoteza vidi samostalni uralski korijen u zna\u010denju <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Ono \u0161to pripada bo\u017eanskom i time je izuzeto iz svakodnevne uporabe.\" tabindex=\"0\">sveto<\/span> ili skriveno.<\/p><p>Etimolo\u0161ki se razmatrala i srodnost s finskim <em>s\u00e4iv\u00f6<\/em>, koje ozna\u010dava sli\u010dna sveta mjesta. Ta veza je religijsko-fenomenolo\u0161ki plodna i upu\u0107uje na staru fino-ugarsku slojevitost.<\/p><p>Dijalektalne varijante su Saivve u ju\u017enosamskom, S\u00e1jvva u umesamskom, S\u00e1ivvu u sjevernosamskom govornom uzorku. Ta raznolikost odgovara op\u0107oj dijalektalnoj diferencijaciji samskog jezika.<\/p><p>Religijsko-sociolo\u0161ko pitanje odnosi se na to koju je funkciju Saivo imao u socijalnom poretku tradicionalne samske zajednice. Budu\u0107i da su saivo-duhovi kao osobni pomaga\u010di noaidi-\u0161amana nosili ritualnu praksu, religijska struktura bila je tijesno povezana s dru\u0161tvenim \u017eivotom.<\/p><p>Ova veza \u010dini zasebno religijsko-antropolo\u0161ko istra\u017eiva\u010dko polje, koje su sustavno prou\u010davali prije svega H\u00e5kan Rydving i Konsta Kaikkonen.<\/p><p>Tome se pridru\u017euje i dana\u0161nje zna\u010denje Saiva za samsku politiku identiteta. U okviru s\u00e1mske samouprave i me\u0111unarodnopravnog priznanja prava autohtonih narod\u00e2, sveta mjesta i njihov svijet duhova ponovno stje\u010du vidljivost. Suodnos religijskog istra\u017eivanja i politi\u010dkog priznanja pri tome je samostalno podru\u010dje prou\u010davanja koje se posljednjih godina obra\u0111uje s pove\u0107anom pa\u017enjom.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s2 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s2\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s2h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s2h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Topografija saivo-mjesta<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s2c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s2c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s2t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s2t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo-mjesta su konkretno smje\u0161tena u samskom krajoliku. Odre\u0111ene planine, odre\u0111ena jezera, odre\u0111ene stjenovite formacije prepoznaju se kao Saivo. Ta mjesta su adrese za \u017ertvene darove i zazivanja.<\/p><p>Karakteristi\u010dna je predstava obrnutog svijeta ispod saivo-planine ili saivo-jezera. Dok Sami \u017eive na povr\u0161ini, saivo-duhovi \u017eive u zrcalnom svijetu ispod njih. Ta zrcalna predstava je religijsko-fenomenolo\u0161ki zaseban fenomen.<\/p><p>Konkretna saivo-mjesta su etnografski dokumentirana. Nalaze se u tradicionalnim samskim naseljenim podru\u010djima i \u010desto imaju posebne vizualne zna\u010dajke, primjerice upadljive stjenovite formacije, neobi\u010dna jezera ili planine osobitog oblika.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s3 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s3h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s3h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Saivo-duhovi kao pomo\u0107ni duhovi<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s3c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s3c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s3t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s3t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo-duhovi su osobni pomo\u0107ni duhovi \u0161amana. Mogu se pojaviti u razli\u010ditim oblicima: Saivo-Lodde kao pti\u010dji <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Netjelesno bi\u0107e kojemu se pripisuje djelovanje u svijetu.\" tabindex=\"0\">duh<\/span>, Saivo-Guelie kao riblji <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Netjelesno bi\u0107e kojemu se pripisuje djelovanje u svijetu.\" tabindex=\"0\">duh<\/span>, Saivo-Sarvva kao sobolji <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Netjelesno bi\u0107e kojemu se pripisuje djelovanje u svijetu.\" tabindex=\"0\">duh<\/span>, Saivo-Olmm\u00e1i kao ljudski <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Netjelesno bi\u0107e kojemu se pripisuje djelovanje u svijetu.\" tabindex=\"0\">duh<\/span>.<\/p><p>Svaki <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Religijski specijalist kojemu se pripisuje posredovanje izme\u0111u ljudi i svijeta duhova.\" tabindex=\"0\">\u0161aman<\/span> imao je jednog ili vi\u0161e osobnih Saivo-duhova, koji su mu pripali na po\u010detku njegova \u0161amanskog pozvanja. Ti pomo\u0107ni duhovi bili su vezani za \u0161amana \u010ditav njegov \u017eivot i mogli su se prenijeti na sljede\u0107u generaciju.<\/p><p>Znanstveno je ova konstelacija pomo\u0107nih duhova strukturno srodna predod\u017ebi o tornaitima kod <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/inuiti-arktik-sedna-tornit-zastita\/\">Inuita<\/a> (vidi <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149737\">Tornarssuk<\/a>). Ta strukturna podudarnost samostalan je nalaz fenomenologije religije i upu\u0107uje na cirkumpolarne \u0161amanske univerzalije.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s4 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s4h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s4h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u0160amanska praksa sa Saivom<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s4c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s4c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s4t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s4t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Noaidi-praksa bila je usko povezana sa Saivom. Prilikom svakog putovanja u transu <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Religijski specijalist kojemu se pripisuje posredovanje izme\u0111u ljudi i svijeta duhova.\" tabindex=\"0\">\u0161aman<\/span> je prizivao svoje Saivo-pomo\u0107nike, koji su mu pokazivali put u drugi svijet. Trans se izazivao bubnjem i joikom.<\/p><p>Saivo-pomo\u0107nici mogli su \u0161amanu pomagati u razli\u010ditim zada\u0107ama: lije\u010denju bolesti, predvi\u0111anju vremena, tra\u017eenju izgubljenih \u017eivotinja, kontaktu s mrtvima u <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149753\">Jabmiidaibmuu<\/a>. Ta raznolikost funkcija tipi\u010dna je za fenomenologiju religije.<\/p><p>Konkretni izvje\u0161taji o \u0161amanskim putovanjima detaljno su dokumentirani u izvorima Schefferusa, Leema i L\u00e6stadiusa. Ti izvje\u0161taji religijsko-etnolo\u0161ki su klju\u010dni za razumijevanje samske \u0161amanske prakse.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s5 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s5\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s5h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s5h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Saivo i pokojnici<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s5c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s5c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s5t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s5t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>U nekim izvorima Saivo se opisuje ne samo kao svijet duhova, nego i kao boravi\u0161te odre\u0111enih pokojnika. Preci \u0161amana, dakle prija\u0161nji noaidi, obitavaju u Saivi i postaju pomo\u0107ni duhovi svojim nasljednicima.<\/p><p>Ta predod\u017eba povezuje Saivo s <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149753\">Jabmiidaibmuom<\/a> u udvostru\u010denju svjetova mrtvih. Dok je Jabmiidaibmu nadle\u017ean za obi\u010dne pokojnike, Saivo je posebno mjesto za pretke religijski nadarenih.<\/p><p>Znanstveno je ovo udvostru\u010denje svjetova mrtvih samostalna konfiguracija. Ono razlikuje samsku tradiciju od tradicija s jednim jedinstvenim svijetom mrtvih i fenomenologijski religijski je razra\u0111eno.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s6 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s6h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s6h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Saivo-tabui i \u017ertvena praksa<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s6c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s6c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s6t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s6t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo-mjesta bila su okru\u017eena brojnim tabuima. Onaj koji je posje\u0107ivao Saivo-planinu morao je biti <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Ono \u0161to pripada utvr\u0111enom slijedu religijskih radnji.\" tabindex=\"0\">ritualno<\/span> \u010dist, nije smio izgovarati odre\u0111ene rije\u010di i morao je donijeti \u017ertvene darove. Kr\u0161enje Saivo-tabua moglo je izazvati bolest, nesre\u0107u u lovu ili smrt.<\/p><p>\u017drtveni darovi na Saivo-mjestima naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e su se sastojali od sobovih rogova, kostiju, komada tkanine ili malih izrezbarenih figura. Ta praksa arheolo\u0161ki je djelomi\u010dno potvrdiva, jer su na nekim Saivo-mjestima prona\u0111eni ostaci \u017ertvenih prinosa.<\/p><p>O\u010duvanje te \u017ertvene prakse znanstveno je poticajno. Ono omogu\u0107uje arheolo\u0161ku provjeru etnografskih zapisa i \u010dini Saivo-religiju posebno dobro potvr\u0111enim predmetom istra\u017eivanja.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s7 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s7h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s7h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Usporedba s drugim svjetovima duhova<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s7c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s7c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s7t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s7t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo pripada klasi topografski utemeljenih svjetova duhova, koji su zastupljeni u brojnim autohtonim religijama. Strukturno usporedivi su finska Tuonela sa svojom topografskom lokacijom, sveti planine nenetskog naroda i sjevernoameri\u010dka stani\u0161ta manida.<\/p><p>Posebnost Saiva le\u017ei u dvostrukoj odredbi kao topografskog mjesta i kao boravi\u0161ta osobnih pomo\u0107nih duhova. Ta dvostruka odredba fenomenologijski je religijski samostalna i razlikuje Saivo od \u010disto topografskih ili \u010disto teolo\u0161kih konfiguracija.<\/p><p>Unutar finsko-ugarske tradicije Saivo je srodan finskoj predod\u017ebi <em>s\u00e4iv\u00f6<\/em>. Ta strukturna srodnost upu\u0107uje na staru zajedni\u010dku sloj. Taj je slog religijsko-povijesno dobro dokumentiran.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s8 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s8\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s8h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s8h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Istra\u017eivanje i sada\u0161nje stanje<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s8c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s8c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s8t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s8t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Istra\u017eivanje Saiva \u0161iroko je postavljeno. H\u00e5kan Rydving, Juha Pentik\u00e4inen, Anna Lia Berthelsen i Konsta Kaikkonen sustavno su istra\u017eivali Saivo-<span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Znanstveno u\u010denje o Bogu i o vjeri neke religije.\" tabindex=\"0\">teologiju<\/span>. Arheolo\u0161ki radovi na Saivo-mjestima nadopunjuju etnografsku izvornu gra\u0111u.<\/p><p>U suvremenoj samskoj kulturnoj revitalizaciji Saivo je zna\u010dajna figura. Sveta planine i jezera danas su za\u0161ti\u0107ena kao dio samske kulturne ba\u0161tine, \u0161to je religijsko-politi\u010dki va\u017ean uspjeh.<\/p><p>Znanstveno je prou\u010davanje Saiva plodno istra\u017eiva\u010dko polje. Konkretne istra\u017eiva\u010dke praznine postoje u arheolo\u0161kom istra\u017eivanju daljnjih Saivo-mjesta i u to\u010dnoj fenomenologijsko-religijskoj diferencijaciji Saivo-duhova.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s9 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s9h elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s9h\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Poveznice u leksikonu<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s9c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s9c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-s9t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-s9t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo se povezuje s <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149753\">Jabmiidaibmuom<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149745\">Beaivijem<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149746\">M\u00e1nnuom<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149747\">R\u00e1hkom<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149748\">Stallom<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149749\">Sara-Akkom<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149750\">Uksakkom<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149751\">Juksakkom<\/a> i <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/?page_id=149752\">Madderakkom<\/a>. Kulturno \u010dvori\u0161te <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/sami-i-finougorska-tradicija-noaidi-bubanj\/\">Samska tradicija<\/a> okru\u017euje svete planinske svjetove. Strukturno sli\u010dna boravi\u0161ta pomo\u0107nih duhova nalaze se u nizu natuknica o <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/inuiti-arktik-sedna-tornit-zastita\/\">Inuitima<\/a> kod <em>Tornarssuk<\/em>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2fc47813 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"cp2fc47813\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2a94fa09 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"cp2a94fa09\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Saivo kao mjesto i kao podru\u010dje bi\u0107a: o zna\u010denju pojma<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2ffcc7ba e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"cp2ffcc7ba\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2493c457 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cp2493c457\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Samski pojam <em>saivo<\/em> (u regionalnim varijantama i <em>saiva<\/em>, <em>s\u00e1iva<\/em>) ne ozna\u010dava toliko jedno pojedina\u010dno bi\u0107e koliko cijelo podru\u010dje onostranog svijeta. U izvorima se Saivo pojavljuje kao sfera povezana s odre\u0111enim svetim jezerima, planinama i mjestima u krajoliku.<\/p><p>Karakteristi\u010dna je predod\u017eba o jezerima s dvostrukim dnom: ispod vidljive vode nalazi se, prema vjerovanju, drugo dno, u kojem postoji vlastiti svijet s vlastitim ribama i bi\u0107ima.<\/p><p>Sa Saivom je bila povezana predod\u017eba da tamo \u017eive <em>saivo<\/em>-bi\u0107a, me\u0111u koja su ubrajani pomo\u0107ni duhovi <em>noaidija<\/em>, samskih ritualnih specijalista. Ti duhovi mogli su poprimiti \u017eivotinjski oblik, primjerice kao <em>saivo<\/em>-riba, <em>saivo<\/em>-ptica ili <em>saivo<\/em>-sob, te su pomagali noaidiju na njegovim putovanjima u onostrane sfere.<\/p><p>Istodobno je Saivo u nekim predajama vrijedio kao mjesto prebivanja mrtvih ili odre\u0111enih predaka, tako da taj pojam ozna\u010dava prostor u kojem se dodiruju svijet duhova i svijet mrtvih.<\/p><p>To\u010dna razgrani\u010denja Saiva u odnosu na druga onostrana podru\u010dja samske <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Predod\u017eba o strukturi i poretku svijeta unutar jedne kulture.\" tabindex=\"0\">kozmologije<\/span> nisu u izvorima jedinstvena. Uz Saivo spominju se i podzemni svijet ispod zemlje te nebeske sfere, a izvje\u0161taji su djelomi\u010dno kontradiktorni.<\/p><p>To je s jedne strane posljedica regionalne raznolikosti samske religije na ogromnom naseljenom podru\u010dju, a s druge strane fragmentarne <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Preno\u0161enje znanja i pripovijesti kroz generacije.\" tabindex=\"0\">predaje<\/span> koju su filtrirali kr\u0161\u0107anski promatra\u010di. Mo\u017ee se ustvrditi da je Saivo bio sredi\u0161nji, ali pojmovno nejasan element samske predod\u017ebe o slojevitom svijetu. Srodne koncepte svetih mjesta poznaju i druge <a href=\"https:\/\/iwell-guard.com\/hr\/sami-i-finougorska-tradicija-noaidi-bubanj\/\">sjevernoeuroazijske kulture<\/a>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2a7ae17a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"cp2a7ae17a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2b8c42db elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"cp2b8c42db\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Saivo-duhovi i \u0161amanska praksa: predaja iskrivljena misionarskim djelovanjem<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp2ac09e8f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"cp2ac09e8f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cp21d51adc elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cp21d51adc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Povezanost Saiva s praksom noaidija \u010dini taj pojam va\u017enim za religijsku znanost, ali istodobno posebno osjetljivim s izvorno-kriti\u010dkog gledi\u0161ta.<\/p><p>Gotovo sve \u0161to se zn\u0430 o saivo-pomo\u0107nim duhovima potje\u010de iz spisa kr\u0161\u0107anskih misionara 17. i 18. stolje\u0107a, koji su noaidija i njegov bubanj smatrali oru\u0111em \u0111avola. Izvje\u0161taji o saivo-duhovima nastali su, dakle, u kontekstu aktivnog suzbijanja doma\u0107e religije.<\/p><p>Ta okolnost nastanka oblikovala je <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Preno\u0161enje znanja i pripovijesti kroz generacije.\" tabindex=\"0\">predaju<\/span> na vi\u0161e na\u010dina. Kao prvo, promatra\u010di su demonizirali saivo-duhove i utisnuli ih u kr\u0161\u0107ansku shemu pakta i obuzetosti.<\/p><p>Kao drugo, zapisiva\u010di su se zanimali prije svega za spektakularno, primjerice za trans noaidija, dok su svakodnevne veze Saiva s krajolikom i lovom dobivale manje pa\u017enje. Kao tre\u0107e, mnogi podaci potje\u010du iz situacija ispitivanja, primjerice u vezi s procesima protiv samskih ritualnih specijalista, \u0161to dodatno umanjuje njihovu pouzdanost.<\/p><p>Novija istra\u017eivanja, me\u0111u njima radovi H\u00e5kana Rydvinga i drugih skandinavista i religiologa, zato isti\u010du da se predana slika saivo-duhova ne mo\u017ee \u010ditati kao izravan odraz samskih predod\u017ebi. Neki detalji vjerojatno su misionarska konstrukcija, drugi ipak poga\u0111aju jezgru doma\u0107e tradicije.<\/p><p>Relativno dobro utvr\u0111enom smatra se temeljna predod\u017eba o Saivu kao duhovima nastanjenom onostranom podru\u010dju povezanom s konkretnim svetim mjestima u krajoliku. Pojedinosti o saivo-duhovima i njihovoj ulozi u praksi noaidija, naprotiv, ostaju obilje\u017eene znatnom nesigurno\u0161\u0107u.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-lit e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-lit\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-lith elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-lith\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Literatura (izbor)<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-litc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-litc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-litt elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-litt\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div data-nosnippet=\"true\"><ul><li>Johannes Schefferus: <em>Lapponia<\/em> (Frankfurt 1673)<\/li><li>Knud Leem: <em>Beskrivelse over Finmarkens Lapper<\/em> (Kopenhagen 1767)<\/li><li>Lars Levi L\u00e6stadius: <em>Fragmenter i lappska mythologien<\/em> (Manuskript ca. 1840)<\/li><li>H\u00e5kan Rydving: <em>The End of Drum-Time<\/em> (Uppsala 1993)<\/li><li>Juha Pentik\u00e4inen: <em>Saamelaiset<\/em> (Helsinki 1995)<\/li><li>Konsta Kaikkonen: <em>Sami Pre-Christian Religion<\/em> (Helsinki 2020)<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgkw2-add-saivo e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgkw2-add-saivo\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgkw2-add-saivo-t elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"iwgkw2-add-saivo-t\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Saivo se u starijoj samskoj <span class=\"iwg-fachbegriff\" data-tooltip=\"Preno\u0161enje znanja i pripovijesti kroz generacije.\" tabindex=\"0\">predaji<\/span> smatra svetom <em>domovinom duhova<\/em> unutar planina i jezera, u kojoj prebivaju preci i \u0161amanske pomo\u0107ne \u017eivotinje i koju noaidi posje\u0107uje na svojim bubnjarskim putovanjima.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-iwgw-saivo-kwd e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"iwgw-saivo-kwd\" data-element_type=\"container\" 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